I agonized over whether or not to post this blog.
Technically, it has nothing to do with the topics that I feel I should be covering out here: communication, writing, employee relations, drinking, or midgets. But I'm in trouble, and I need the blog's help.
As I've mentioned before, my son—and Vice President of HR for Crescenzo Communications—is in kindergarten.
The other day, when I was going through his schoolwork with him, I came across a thin piece of paper. On it was a riddle, and a puzzle.
The riddle was this:
When do rabbits have 8 feet?
Answer: When there are two rabbits.
Cute, right? The riddle is not the problem, however. The puzzle is the problem. Now, I have to assume that this puzzle is for five-year-olds. Why else would they put it in a five-year-old's school folder?
And yet . . .and yet . . . I can't get it. And neither can five other adults I showed it to. I think it's because I showed it to writers, and we only use one half of our brain. And this puzzle, which involves (shudder!) numbers, needs us to use the other half. Which has been dead for me since Algebra 101.
So I'm hoping maybe you can help. The puzzle is below. I've been working on it for a week straight and I can't get it. Can you?
The object is to guess what number is next in the series. The only clue given is this:
'This is not difficult, but it requires flexible thinking.'
Not difficult my ass, I want to say to the teacher who handed this damn thing out. But I can't go to her, because I'm ashamed that I haven't got it yet. Help a brother out, will you? I want to go tape the solution to the teacher's forehead for putting me through this. Here it is:
1
11
21
1211
3112
132112
?
Feels like Total Recall. Er, Philip K Dick?
Actually, with Steve's example it's a bit scary --- standing at the urinal...

Comments (29)
Ummm...Steve, it's all in the apostrophe...or lack thereof.
"When do RABBITS have 8 feet?"
NB: RABBITS, not RABBIT'S
smp
Posted by Stephen Pierzchala | April 27, 2005 10:18 AM
Posted on April 27, 2005 10:18
Steve...c'mon brother...the answer is right before your bloodshot eyes! Consecutive number sequences are sequences constructed by concatenating numbers of a given type. Many of these sequences were considered by Smarandache, so they are sometimes known as Smarandache sequences.
The nth term of the consecutive integer sequence consists of the concatenation of the first n positive integers: 1, 12, 123, 1234, ... (Sloane's A007908; Smarandache 1993, Dumitrescu and Seleacu 1994, sequence 1; Mudge 1995; Stephan 1998; Wolfram 2002, p. 913). This sequence gives the digits of the Champernowne constant.
Fleuren (1999) verified the absence of primes up to n = 200, a result extended to the first terms by Weisstein (Apr. 17, 2005). This is roughly consistent with simple arguments based on the distribution of primes which suggest that only a single prime is expected in the first or so terms.
Subsequently, I have absolutely no freakin' idea of what any of this means and must humbly point out the obvious answer -- ask the teacher!
Posted by Don | April 27, 2005 11:01 AM
Posted on April 27, 2005 11:01
Yep, no idea. Here is a fun one that should make you feel better. Add up this series of numbers as you go. It helps to do so aloud.
1000
40
1000
30
1000
20
1000
10
So, you got 5,000, right? Right. Now, add them up with pencil and paper.
Posted by Steve Neruda | April 27, 2005 11:52 AM
Posted on April 27, 2005 11:52
I have a math degree. So does my wife, and she is a math teacher. But I had never seen this before.
Look at the first number and say what you see., then write down what you said.
You say "one 1" so the next number is 11.
Look at 11, say "two 1s", write 21.
Look at 21, say "one 2, one 1", write 1211.
Now it gets tricky.
One way to do this would have you look at 1211, say "one 1, one 2, two 1s" - but this puzzle requires you to scan the whole number left-to-right one digit at a time:
Look at 1211, say "three 1s, one 2" = 3112
Then look at 3112 the same way,
say "one 3, two 1s, one 2" = 132112
Then say "three 1s, one 3, two 2s" to get 311322 as the next number.
These are called "inventory puzzles" because the answer involves some form of counting how many items you are looking at. They are nasty.
p.s. Steve Neruda: no, I got 4,100.
Posted by Tim Hicks | April 27, 2005 12:32 PM
Posted on April 27, 2005 12:32
Steve,
Thanks for reminding me why I hated math and went into writing.
Posted by Shari S | April 27, 2005 12:43 PM
Posted on April 27, 2005 12:43
Whoa! You are the man Tim.
Posted by Melody | April 27, 2005 12:43 PM
Posted on April 27, 2005 12:43
Tim - Well of course you did, since that is correct. It is the rare individual, indeed, who can resist saying 5000. It is of course ALSO the rare individual who has a math degree and posts to this very blog!
In fact, I was furiously trying to have a coworker post a note so I could follow up my own note with the answer - although I cheated mercilessly to find it (just google 132112 series puzzle). Had a snarky comment all ready to go too...
SN
Posted by Steve Neruda | April 27, 2005 12:55 PM
Posted on April 27, 2005 12:55
So it appears that the key to solving the puzzle is to have the mind oif a 5-year-old. Wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of that.
Next puzzle: why are there so many of us Canadians here?
Posted by Tim Hicks | April 28, 2005 11:09 AM
Posted on April 28, 2005 11:09
Because the weather has turned you into borderline alcoholics.
Posted by Meredith | April 28, 2005 11:43 AM
Posted on April 28, 2005 11:43
DATE: 04/27/2005 10:71:7P AM
Tim is cool.
Posted by Cathy | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 10:83:9P AM
Whoever thought this up likes numbers way too much and has a sick sense of humour. (that's the canadian spelling of humor by the way - I'm crappy with numbers but words are easy). All I can say is I'm glad I'm not in kindegarten anymore.
Posted by Kelly | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 01:34:8P PM
Is that the Canadian spelling of Kindergarten as well?
A thousand pardons Kelly - I had to get the snarky comment out one way or the other...
SN
Posted by Steve Neruda | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 02:83:6P PM
I'm going to go WAY out on a limb here and guess that it's repeating, growing pattern, and looked at it vertically and horizontally. Without looking up the answer on Google, I'm going to guess:
411321
This is probably incredibly, embarrassingly, wrong, but I'm feeling inclined to gamble today.
Posted by Carmen RH | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 03:55:7P PM
Tee hee Steve. Maybe I never went to kindergarten - and I have a mental block in regarding the spelling because it was was such a traumatic experience watching all my little friends trot off to school while I stayed home in my igloo eating seal fat. You should really be careful about dissing Canadians, or I'll send the RCMP after you (that's the Royal Canadian Mounted Police - our national police force that is unfortunately best known for something called The Musical Ride - eeek). By the way, now that you've posted your snarky comment, do you feel better?
Posted by Kelly | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 08:54:7P PM
Much, thanks. In fact, I work with a resident of Moncton, New Brunswick (stand up and take abow, Monique!), who is taken to great fits of righteous indignation whenever Canada (or, as I like to call it, Northern Wisconsin) suffers an insult. Which is usually all the encouragement I need.
SN
Posted by Steve Neruda | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 09:21:3P PM
I'm actually in western Canada (also known as northern Montana) but I think I'd like Monique. Canadians rock and everyone around the world loves us - which is more than I can say for our friends south of the border who apparently try to pass themselves off as Canadians when they travel by posting a maple leaf on their clothing/luggage. It never works though, when someone asks them where they are from and they say Toronto because it's the only Canadian city they know, other people know they're lying because no one admits to being from Toronto.
And now that we're totally off the subject of numbers, (thank goodness), I think I might actually go back to work. Good day, eh!
Posted by Kelly | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 10:71:3P PM
Hello -- This is Monique from Moncton, and Steve has been intent on pulling me into this discussion on Canada (furiously instant mssging & emailing).
Kelly -- Steve N. is every bit as snarky in person as he is on this blog. He doesn't get Canada -- the politeness, civility, the universal focus on the greater good, etc.
Since I live in Illinois, I miss Tim Horton coffee (Starbucks has nothing on Tim Horton), Harvey's hamburgers, and Fundy lobster -- yum. And the beer is infinitely superior. One thing about the U.S. though -- you can't beat the entertainment value of the political landscape. Although I know that Canada's Liberal Party is trying real hard (the Americans reading this will no doubt wonder what the hell I'm talking about; raise your hand if you do).
Posted by Monique | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 11:22:0P PM
What is all this stuff about Northern Wisconsin/ Northern Montana? I thought it was all just Southern Alaska!
Posted by Rick | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 22:75:0P PM
this hurts my head :(
Posted by Jill | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 28:61:2P PM
Please tell me no five-year-old could really solve that puzzle.
Posted by Meredith | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/27/2005 33:44:5P PM
I'm going to run this puzzle by my wife, who is an assistant principal at a K-3 elementary school. Maybe the little darlings just look at life differently than us grown-ups, but I strongly suspect everyone will be saying, "Huh?"
Posted by Kevin | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/28/2005 02:80:2P PM
Ok, a few short thoughts on this very entertaining blog:
1. Math bites.
2. Tim rocks for understanding the math.
3. What kind of crazy-*ss Montessori-college prep-Kindergarten is this you have your son in, Steve?
4. Canadians, in general, rock. I should know...I am married to one. And he is currently struggling with the fact that our new street address has the word "Harbor" in it and he REALLY wants to spell it "Harbour"!
Sonya
Posted by Sonya | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/28/2005 29:93:0P PM
To Sonya's first point above, I would highly recommend a little ditty by another functional alcoholic, James Buffett, Esquire. Tune is called "Math Suks" and its on his album Beach House on the Moon.
A selection:
"Let's start with something simple, like one and one ain't three
Any two plus two will never get you five.
There are fractions in my subtraction and x don't equal y
But my homework is bound to multiply.
Math suks"
SN
Posted by Steve Neruda | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/28/2005 80:13:8A PM
Wow. There are some really smart people out here . . . which is nice to know, since, as someone at Ragan said to me last week: "You're entire blog community is made up of borderline alcoholics."
I, of course, took offense to the namby pamby qualifier, "borderline," preferring the more accurate, "functional."
Anyway, Tim . . . you ARE the man. So now that I had the solution, I finally sat down with Zach and showed him the puzzle. I explained the concept, gave him the series of numbers, and after studying it for about 45 seconds, had the only response that I could have been proud of. He said:
"Dad, can we play baseball now?"
RIGHT ANSWER!!!!!!
Steve C.
Posted by Steve C. | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/28/2005 81:01:8A PM
Teachers are giving 5-year olds puzzles like this, yet so many are graduating from high school not knowing how to read or write at a 5-year old level. It makes perfect sense!
Posted by Darin | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/28/2005 81:91:5A PM
Sorry for the You're instead of the required Your, group. Sometimes, neither side of my brain seems to work very well.
Steve C.
Posted by Steve C. | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
DATE: 04/29/2005 23:44:6P PM
First off - I have been so busy working I missed this whole thing until just now and I'm so sad. I, too, in addition to being IT geek am a math geek. Actually I was a math geek before a computer geek, having changed majors when I realized there was no money in teaching high school math.
Anyway -
1. Steve Neruda is totally snarkilicious and makes me laugh.
2. Math does NOT suck. I *heart* math
3. My name is Rebecca, and I'm a borderline alcoholic.
4. What kind of crazy-*ss Montessori-college prep-Kindergarten is this you have your son in, Steve? ( I really liked Sonya's question)
5. If a person blog's in the forest, and there's no wi-fi signal there for someone to read it...pour yourself a martini and study math by adding the olives you've used.
It's Friday, there are martini's in my future.
Rebecca OUT.
Posted by Rebecca, Julie's friend | October 16, 2006 4:31 PM
Posted on October 16, 2006 16:31
The answer is simple.
111111
Respectively, if the answer above is the last number in the sequence.
Posted by Ryan | July 27, 2008 5:34 AM
Posted on July 27, 2008 05:34
By the way, let me explain...
If you go vertical in sequence, 1, 1, 2... the next number would be 1 again. Next number sequence... 1, 3, 1, the next number would be 1. Do this through the whole problem left to right and tell me otherwise =P
Posted by Ryan | July 27, 2008 5:38 AM
Posted on July 27, 2008 05:38