"Hey, this is glee. Why would I want to get over it? I agree, O'Reilly's not a journalist. He's an entertainer. But I think he's a pompous, dishonest, bullying entertainer. So pardon me if I enjoy seeing his toady made to look the fool."

That's fine. Take all the pleasure you want in watching it! I enjoy seeing certain people exposed as well - if that's what you feel has happened here...I don't...but whatever. "Pushing back" isn't the same thing as exposing someone as a liar or fraud.

The point of Mark Ragan's posting (before he so conveniently change the title - come on dude, have the conviction to stand behind the intention of your post) was that THIS instance and the 12 year-old video clip of O'Reilly yelling at his cameraman was that Bill O'Reilly was going down in flames. In other words, O'Reilly should be off the air and for some reason Mark believed this was the beginning of the end.

My point was...that's not the case. And just because Mark doesn't like O'Reilly and disagrees with his views or his tactics, doesn't mean O'Reilly should be taken off the air. He and you can take all the pleasure you want in seeing O'Reilly getting "pushed back." But to hope he is silenced by this weak confrontation exposes Mark and what he feels about those that disagree with him. If you feel he should be taken off the air for his views, it exposes you too.

Again, it's called fascism. I just hope neither of you are ever elected to public office.

"If you're worried that he'll sway public opinion toward an agenda that you don't agree with, move to a country where everyone thinks like you and the government controls dissent. Otherwise, sit back, enjoy your freedom, and find a show that YOU like to watch with a personality that espouses opinions YOU agree with."

Or better yet, watch a show that does not reflect the opinions you already hold with the goal of understanding what makes the other side tick.

The problem with our current state of public debate is that everyone is so busy angrily shouting their own opinions and violently debasing the opinions of others that no one is seeking to understand and to expand their narrow ways of thinking.

It takes a particular level of intellectual maturity to listen to a wide variety of views, to assimilate that information and then to form one's own unique opinion. Sadly, that level of maturity is lacking in our culture today.

Hey, this is glee. Why would I want to get over it? I agree, O'Reilly's not a journalist. He's an entertainer. But I think he's a pompous, dishonest, bullying entertainer. So pardon me if I enjoy seeing his toady made to look the fool. You don't like it?

Get over it.

Thank you, Jon. Well said.

One of the first rules of PR is to get the facts before you speak. A simple review of the other videos on YouTube would have given you better context for this posting.

I watched the Moyers video as well as several other YouTube Clips of O'Reilly adressing his complaints against Moyers. Moyers asked O'Reilly to come on; O'Reilly said "fine" but do it in our studio so we can have a copy of the tape and you come on my show the next day; Moyer's declined.

I'm don't always agree with O'Reilly's views but I do think he is fair. He gives people the opportunity to state their point of view before he challenges them. Often he will give them the last word.

Mistruths, partial truths and outright deception are what give PR practitioners a bad name. It makes me wonder, "PR Junkie or PR Flunkie?"

"So, Bill has never lied or manipulated?"

Are you not getting my point? I don't care if he did lie or manipulate. The point is, he can say whatever he wants on his opinion show, and if you don't like it, don't watch it. And certainly don't call for him to be silenced. If he's a liar, people will watch him less and he'll fizzle out on his own.

If you read what I wrote carefully, you'll see that I said Moore lies and manipulates, but I recognize his right to make films even if I don't agree with them (and good god, I don't).

Again, O'Reilly's not a journalist, he's a commentator. He's an entertainer. He does what he does to get ratings, not to be an objective reporter.

Realize that there are those whose opinions are different from yours and that many people want to hear them whether because they relate to them or they disagree with them.

Holy crap. You people need to find something other than Bill O'Reilly to occupy yourselves. He has NO power. He cannot pass bills, he cannot declare war on a country, he cannot implement taxes. He's a commentator. Let it go.

If you're worried that he'll sway public opinion toward an agenda that you don't agree with, move to a country where everyone thinks like you and the government controls dissent. Otherwise, sit back, enjoy your freedom, and find a show that YOU like to watch with a personality that espouses opinions YOU agree with.

Whoever writes this PRJUNKIE blog sounds:

1.) Uneducated about his/her own media profession
2.) Like they walled themselves into a room of twisted truth

Reading many of these articles is a lot like listening to your two-year-old say she didn't poop her pants when it's running down her leg or hearing a slurring drunk explain how sober he is to a police officer.

Stick to things that are true.

And, stick to things that are good, please.

So, Bill has never lied or manipulated?

I don't understand how a 12 year-old clip and his producer being confronted means O'Reilly's done for. He's still the #1 cable news show. Bill Clinton confronted Chris Wallace on his show and Chris is still around.

You people need to get over it. The O'Reilly Factor is an opinion show, not a news show. His confrontational style is what gets him ratings. As for him "beating up" his guests, I've been watching his show for years (not religiously and I don't consider myself a fan of his), I have a feeling you've never watched his show. He is certainly confrontational, but those people go on there voluntarily. And if their position is strong, then they can go toe-to-toe with him. If you feel your convictions aren't solid and the logic of your argument is faulty at best, then don't go on the O'Reilly Factor.

I'm not saying I agree with him all the time or that he's right all the time. I'm saying it's an opinion show. If people didn't respond to him - positively or negatively - he wouldn't be around.

He gets ratings. Get over it. If you don't like him, turn him off and watch CNN or MSNBC. That's why we live in a free country.

Michael Moore does the same bullying in his films. On top of it, he outright lies and manipulates footage to promote his agenda. But I'd never tell anyone he can't make his films. In fact, I would encourage more films and TV programs be made to counter his bubbling brook of BS.

It's called an exchange of ideas. And it's amazing to me that for all the yelling liberals do about freedom of speech, they're the first ones who call for the silencing of Bill O'Reilly and Fox News. I beleive that's called fascism. I've heard liberals saying the most hateful things when their ideas are challenged and no one says boo. Apparently, dissent is fine as long as it comes from the left.

I'm sorry if a lot of people in this country don't agree with your ideas and that Fox News is so popular. Ouch. But the solution isn't to silence anyone. In the end, making a better case for your policies and philosophies is the only way Fox News and O'Reilly will ever fall in popularity.

Until then, deal.

Priceless!!